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daantjie

Canada
1087 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2018 :  22:54:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow...

https://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/mercedes-benz/300%20series/victoria/british%20columbia/5_41556788_20160323144551607/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=1_10_10&pc=V5A%201A4&sprx=100



Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC

AgSilver

USA
302 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2018 :  10:58:48  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Between my father and myself, we owned 3 300SL's -- 1 gullwing and 2 roadsters. I believe these beautiful machines reached their peak value a few years ago. Remember, it's not as if it is such a rare car. about 1400 of the gullwings were built and more than 1800 of the roadsters and almost all survive to this day. Good quality "drivers" can be purchased for well under $1 million and I suspect that you could even see the value decline somewhat over the next 10 years.

Have you ever seen the video of this driver? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE1bA4gAFsw

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
W109 6.3(6.5)
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BlueTEC
9146GT Gone
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daantjie

Canada
1087 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2018 :  14:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Holy cow now that guy has brass balls! To my eye the handling of the car leaves a bit to be desired when I look at the play in the wheel, or maybe that's just me, but that would make this bit of driving that more impressive!

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC
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AgSilver

USA
302 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2018 :  23:51:56  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As you can see and hear in the video, it's a real balancing act with the application of power and the swing-axle's inherent tendency to go to positive camber, especially on downhill curves. Accordingly, the race setup geometry would be around -2.5 degrees. Pretty much the same as with the 356 Porsches or any swing-axle car of that era.

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
W109 6.3(6.5)
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BlueTEC
9146GT Gone
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mpmorris

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  11:29:58  Show Profile  Visit mpmorris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Many, many moons ago when you could buy a running but tatty Gullwing for less than 20k, I commuted in a '58 over a coastal mountain road daily to San Francisco. The power band was at 4500 rpm and simply roared and pulled in that range. I seemed to keep 4 wheels on the ground powering through the turns up and down the mountain -fabulous driving experience.
mpm
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67300SE5SPD

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  11:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mpmorris, back when prices weren't insane. Currently the 190sl bubble has seemed to have burst leaving quite a few 190sl owners worried. Let's see how stable the 300SL/Gullwings prices hold up over the coming years...


Great story though...What became of your car?

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daantjie

Canada
1087 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  11:51:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sadly I think this type of "body and machine as one" type feeling you can only get from these old beautiful cars will one day be a distant memory once we are all tooling around in bland autonomous vehicles...

Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC

Edited by - daantjie on 11/15/2018 11:53:05
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mpmorris

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  13:06:00  Show Profile  Visit mpmorris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lou -I probably fixed the mechanicals, made the car road worthy, sold it for the next venture (a set of tires would only last 5,000 miles so it would have been sold after one set) -at the same time period I had several XK roadsters, a ponton, a 113 230 highly modified for mountain driving (it would pull a 6.3 up to 70 miles an hour (punched, balanced and cc'd 2.8 liter), and a few BMW 2002s --I even had a '67 Toyota 2000GT. This would have been mid to late 1970s. Damn --just remembered --for a short time I drove a SWB 600 over the mountain --bought the car with a bad driveshaft for 7 grand.
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67300SE5SPD

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  13:09:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fun memories....

Who could have known about the future market for those cars.....
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AgSilver

USA
302 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2018 :  13:39:29  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In the mid 60's in Los Angeles, it was not unusual to see Gullwings on a used car lot for $3995.00. That said, that's about $32k in today's dollars -- still a pretty good return of about 3000%.


And one more memory, in 1957 at Santa Barbara with our 1957 white Gullwing, Don Ricardo, who owned a magnificent red Gullwing with Rudge knock-off wheels, implored us to keep the car as he firmly believed that they would become very valuable in future years. But since my mother refused to ride in the Gullwing, in 1958 on a beautiful summer, Saturday morning, it was replaced with a new 300SL Roadster --- my father's logic was: happy wife, happy life.

[URL=http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/Ag171717/media/Dads1957300SLGullwingatSantaBarbara_zpsec37be23.jpg.html][/URL]

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
W109 6.3(6.5)
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BlueTEC
9146GT Gone

Edited by - AgSilver on 11/27/2018 00:46:53
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daantjie

Canada
1087 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2018 :  12:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And another, Roadster this time:

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/d/1957-mercedes-benz-300sl/6763295738.html

Just in time for Christmas



Daniel
1977 450 SEL 6.9
Vancouver, BC

Edited by - daantjie on 12/04/2018 12:55:08
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tom.hanson

USA
318 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2018 :  13:19:46  Show Profile  Visit tom.hanson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
300SL prices seem to be slightly on the rise again.

Tom Hanson
Supervisor, Parts Sales
MB Classic Center USA
949 598-4842 direct
thomas.hanson@mbusa.com
ex - 1970 6.3 #4045
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AgSilver

USA
302 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2018 :  12:38:42  Show Profile  Visit AgSilver's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If I were a candidate for a "driver" roadster, this would appear to be a good choice. The asking price is in the range of a fully restored 98 point example. Important cars - yes, of course, but still almost 1900 roadsters and about 1400 gullwings with most surviving today. That said, it's the 29 lightweight gullwings that are made out of unobtainium and command stratospheric prices.

Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Niederheimbach, Germany
W109 6.3(6.5)
E55K AMG
CLK63 AMG Gone
Ferrari 400GTC4 Gone
ML400CDI BiTurbo
ML350 CDI BlueTEC
9146GT Gone
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