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ctmaher

USA
672 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2010 :  14:16:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a quick update on my hydro suspension issue on the 500SEL. When I first got the car home, I was able to get the back end up, but the front refused to raise. I put a jack under the front and raised it up to let the front wheels hang while the engine was running. I heard a few pops and hisses and then put it back down and voila!, she is sitting on all four at the right height now. Must have been an air pocket and it needed to be burped. I think a set of spheres and a new reservoir and and fluid change and the suspension will be ok.

Chris
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alabbasi

USA
2860 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2010 :  17:14:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A trick that i've used in the past is to jump up and down on the bumper which seems to free things up. As your car is a Euro, you don't have much of a bumper :-)

With best regards

Al
1970 Mercedes Benz 280SL California Coupe
1971 Mercedes Benz 250CE (RHD in the UK)
1971 Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3
1972 Mercedes Benz 280CE 4 speed
1973 Mercedes Benz 280CE 4 speed
1973 Mercedes Benz 350SE 4 speed
1976 Mercedes Benz 300D
1979 Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9
1981 Mercedes Benz 500SLC
1984 Mercedes Benz 500SL
1988 Mercedes Benz 560SEC Euro
1991 Mercedes Benz 560SEL
1973 GMC LWB Pickup
1962 Jaguar MKII 3.8 Auto
2006 Adidas Samba


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karra

Finland
862 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2010 :  18:21:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I decided to sell my 1968 280 SE coupe when a serious buyer appeared in September. I was thinking what to buy and ended up choosing a 560 SEC.

I was lucky to find in Germany a suitable car that needs some attention, it has not been on the road for 10 years but can be driven though.

Options:

245 on-board computer (from 01.09.1983)
430 headrests in the rear (from 01.01.1977)
442 airbag in steering wheel (from 01.02.1980 up to 31.10.1993)
551 anti-theft warning system (from 01.11.1978 up to 31.03.1998)
581 automatic climate control (from 01.01.1977)
682 fire extinguisher (from 01.04.1970)
873 seat heater for left and right front seats (from 01.02.1984)
929 nautical blue metallic (from 01.01.1984)
275 leather pebble or mushroom

It arrrived to Finland last weekend and yesterday I picked it up from Helsinki port area.

The version is the full power 220kW/300hp non-catalyst model. So, with free flowing exhaust headers like Ron described, high compression M117 engine, and if I understood right this is so called ECE version. RUF version was with an option to add the catalytic converter.

In 1987/1988 the ECE version was dropped off and the RUF was then the full 220 kW/300 hp version with an option to add catalytic converter. A catalyst version produced 278 hp vs the RUF 300 hp. On later models there was a knocking-sensor but the early ECE has none of these like also no oxygen (lambda) sensor.

I will go through the car during winter to get it in safe running shape for the summer season.



















Kari Pykäläinen

1971 6.3 #5581
1987 560 SEC
1993 E420
1995 Tahoe 350cid
1982 Stingray SV175

Edited by - karra on 10/31/2010 18:24:20
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Ron B

Australia
11599 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2010 :  22:00:47  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It has the drive computor too? Thats a great car!

quote:
12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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karra

Finland
862 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2010 :  12:59:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ron B

It has the drive computor too? Thats a great car!


Yes, it is nice. By the way, the car was checked and loaded on the truck by a fellow called Stefan near Frankfurt .

Kari Pykäläinen

1971 6.3 #5581
1987 560 SEC
1993 E420
1995 Tahoe 350cid
1982 Stingray SV175
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Ron B

Australia
11599 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2010 :  16:42:05  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by karra

quote:
Originally posted by Ron B

It has the drive computor too? Thats a great car!


Yes, it is nice. By the way, the car was checked and loaded on the truck by a fellow called Stefan near Frankfurt .

Kari Pykäläinen

1971 6.3 #5581
1987 560 SEC
1993 E420
1995 Tahoe 350cid
1982 Stingray SV175



Dr Q seems to turn up some interesting cars...
http://cgi.ebay.de/Mercedes-Benz-w107-450-SL-Motor-M100-6-9-/180581490378?pt=Automobile&hash=item2a0b7edeca

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12-14-2004, 11:49 PM #8
Tom Hanson
MBCA Member

What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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Art Love

Australia
6206 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2010 :  18:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find it interesting to compare the instrument cluster on this Euro model and my Australian delivery 1991 version. Standard original delivery in Australia had 186KW as I recall. A 200KW version was available fairly early in Australia, a friend had one. It is my belief that the factory progressively changed the engine during the production series and that the 200KW engine became standard. This information was never provided by M-B Australia.

Some of the differences are due to the drive computer consuming the tacho/clock space, but what I find most interesting are the completely different gear shift points. The Euro 1st gear goes to 60kph, the Australian to 78kph, 2nd on the Euro goes to 122kph and the Australian to 130kph and 3rd on the Euro 198kph with 205kph on the local version. Seems to me that while the engine is different, so is the gearbox. I presume the lower shift points would suggest quicker acceleration for the Euro regardless of the engine output, but would be happy to be corrected.





Art

Edited by - Art Love on 11/02/2010 18:38:25
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karra

Finland
862 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2010 :  18:57:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I was planning for something else for my money but on Friday a week ago a 1965 220SE Coupé turned out for sale. I bought it.

Plan is to have it in roadworthy condition in 2011 and in the coming winter 2011-2012 the car will get the final touch to be put in the Vintage Register.

It is a complete driveable car with no missing parts, bodywork once done and resprayed in the 90's in south Sweden. White colour, black leather, sunroof, manual gearbox, no (other) extras. Not driven for the last 10 years, engine runs lean (this will be the task) but the engine is a factory replacement one by (the dealer) Philippsons AB Sweden.

Kari Pykäläinen

1965 220 SE Coupé
1971 6.3 #5581
1987 560 SEC
1993 E420
1995 Tahoe 350cid
1982 Stingray SV175
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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2010 :  21:03:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could be the diff ratio Art???

C.T.

1969 300SEL 6.3 (to be AMG 6.8 replica) #1268
1971 300SEL 6.3 #5713
1970 600 SWB #1692
1993 300E-24
1959 220SE Ponton #9500929
1983 Schuler 5.0lt Range Rover
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Art Love

Australia
6206 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2010 :  21:57:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Craig,
I have no idea and was hoping that someone would respond that did. So far, no one has, (except you).
Art
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mtrei

USA
3740 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2010 :  23:38:52  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The speedo marks are the maximum speed allowed in each gear, not really the "shift point", and correspond to the red line in that gear. Because both tachos have the same (6K) red line, the difference suggests a different rear end ratio.
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Art Love

Australia
6206 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2010 :  02:07:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Michael,
Why do you think they would do that? Would it be to improve fuel economy in the detoxed Australian version? I take your point on my incorrect usage of "shift point"; I meant maximum shift point. These cars will, in fact, run readilly to 6000rpm in each gear before they change if you put your foot flat to the floor and keep it there. A few members have posted that they own US vesions of this car as well, and I wonder what is on the US speedo.
Art
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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2010 :  03:07:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know of a "secret" fuse that can be removed.........meaning the speeds attained in any gear can be well and truely "exceeded".

Most modern benz V8's will happily rev at 7500rpm all day every day. The trick is to find the fuse/relay/rotor button.

C.T.

1969 300SEL 6.3 (to be AMG 6.8 replica) #1268
1971 300SEL 6.3 #5713
1970 600 SWB #1692
1993 300E-24
1959 220SE Ponton #9500929
1983 Schuler 5.0lt Range Rover

Edited by - Craig Tucker on 11/07/2010 05:42:52
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karra

Finland
862 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2010 :  04:01:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One recent photo of my latest car:





The rims remained at the seller. I have the original 13" with complete hubcaps/rings with the car now.

I was wondering if the long chrome/aluminium moulding was available as an option as probably the wheel arch trims were...

Kari Pykäläinen

1965 220 SE Coupé
1971 6.3 #5581
1987 560 SEC
1993 E420
1995 Tahoe 350cid
1982 Stingray SV175
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Art Love

Australia
6206 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2010 :  04:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They were standard on the 300SE as I'm sure you know. I guess if you wanted, you could buy the 300SE parts and drill the holes. That is what has been done, not only on your car, but many others.

Whether that is what would be called an option is arguable. I don't believe that the factory delivered 220SE, 250SE, 280SE or 280SE 3.5 cars with those chrome parts. So, if I am correct, they were not an "option".
Art
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