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ctmaher

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2010 :  23:56:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I did it again....it's this damn disease we all have. I picked up a 1984 Euro 500SEL off Craigslist here in Phoenix....car was brought in to California in 1983 and I'd say it's spent it's whole life here in the southwest. It's 737 white with 957 Henna Red velour (not a combo you see everyday). Full hydro suspension, power rear seat, ortho front seats, air bag, ABS, climate control,limited slip, fire extinguisher, sunroof. Fully loaded as Euro's go. Original paint is in excellent condition, there is not so much as a ding in the body. Still has original Euro bumpers and headlights. Interior is real good except I need to replace the horsehair pads and there is a hole in the driver seat in the middle of the cushion. It needs a good cleaning. Original books and datacard in glove box.

Ok, thats the good, the ugly is that the hydraulic oil reservoir has a broken off filler neck where the dipstick goes (need a new tank)....I filled it with fluid and got the back up after bleeding air out of system. The front refuses to budge. I'll have to investigate that further, it got too dark out to continue tonight. I have to rebuild the transmission, it won't move the car and it leaks like a sieve. Needs engine mounts and a tune up to get rid of a miss at idle. But there is no valve train noise. And the best part, I got it real cheap.....it was impounded after the teen driving it got pulled over for driving with no license, well I guess it pulled itself over, when the transmission would no longer move the car.

I have a sick fetish for Euro 126's with velour seats and hydropneumatic suspension. Maybe this will cure me or make me worse, I don't know.

I'll take some pics in the next day or so and post them.


Chris in Phoenix
1987 420SEL
1984 500SEL Euro
1982 280SL Euro
1977 450SEL 6.9 Euro
1971 300SEL 3.5
Parts cars:
1986 560SEL
1975 350SL
1969 300SEL 6.3
1971 300SEL 3.5
1979 450SEL 6.9

alabbasi

USA
2869 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  00:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris

Your list of cars is getting out of control. You need to get a handle on that. I think I may have a spare reservoir from a W126 but I wont be sure until next week. If I do, you're welcome to it.

The Euro W126 is a nice little car, how do you like it compared to your 420SEL?
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ctmaher

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  01:05:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did up a Euro 500SEL for a friend years ago, same suspension, real nice car. I remember it was very fast, and the suspension was well, like a 6.9....like floating on a magic carpet. After I get it sorted out, I'll be able to do a valid comparison to my 420SEL. I may even decide to sell the 420 if the conditions are right. Bottom line is, I love that car....it was an original owner car, all the paperwork, etc. Ivory with brown leather, and even with 230,000 miles, still feels like a new car. You ever have that one car you don't think you would ever sell? Well, my 420SEL is that car for me. So if I can get this 500SEL as nice as my 420 is, then I may change my mind.

This 500SEL, it appears, was another one of those cars that was the personal car of the gray market importer....the name on the door sticker is the same as the name on the old registration documents in the glove box. I think it was sold to the last owner, the teenager, only in the last few months, so it is, in effect, a one owner car.

If you can get your hands on that reservoir, that would be awesome Al. Let me know.

Chris
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Stu Hammel

USA
667 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  03:33:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris,

Best of luck with the new 126. Of the cars I own, my favorite is my 1983 euro 500sel. It is silbergrun metallic with perfect green velour, sunroof,climate control, heated seats front and rear, etc. It has 267,000km on the clock. It is nearly as powerful as the 6.9 and has an equivalent ride. The car was in California from 1984 on and spent all of its life in the garage. I bought the car on ebay a couple of years ago and just absolutely love it. It has been trouble-free. I just took delivery of my latest addition on Friday. It is a 1993 300ce Cabriolet: 199 pearl black/black leather, etc. Took it on a nice top-down run today.

Again, best of luck with your car.

Stu
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mpmorris

USA
1359 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  10:25:45  Show Profile  Visit mpmorris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Score Chris!!

No, this purchase won't cure you, just feeds the disease until the next one.

I had an '80 500 with pneumatics for years. Couldn't kill that car.

The 380SEC that I bought last month for the grill and misc parts to assemble my 500SEC AMG turned out to be a driver. I bought it site unseen and discovered that there wasn't anything wrong except a yoyo had started diagnosing a bad fuel pump relay by replacing the fuel distributor, coil and stuff. The fuel pump was in the trunk -put that back on, bridged the relay and started the car. I've been driving it for 2 weeks now. The car sat for 4 years.

mpm
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ctmaher

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  14:52:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some pictures I took today.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ctmaher68/500SEL#

Chris
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cakalues

USA
781 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  16:35:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome interior. I love the uniqueness. I have never seen that color velour before.

Luis
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mtrei

USA
3740 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  17:12:52  Show Profile  Visit mtrei's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm always looking for cars with the trip computer.



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Ron B

Australia
11612 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  17:45:41  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What model engine does it have?
I am doing an engine swap at the moment ( M117 into W111) and the owner had bought a donor 500SEL ( Champagne with Burgundy leather,ex Hong Kong) . The 500 had full service history from new and was written off after it was rear ended. It wasn't until last week when he dropped the engine into home I discovered it was a very special car. No hydro suspension but every thing else .
The engine is the SA (RuF) M117 -965 . No Cats, no air pump,(although they were designed to accept them as a retrofit) 10-1 compression,560 heads,huge freeflow exhaust manifolds, 265 HP.
The trans is the usual 722-331 but with the sport mode switch .
I need to check the Diff to see if it has legendary Torson unit.It does have LSD according to the data plate.
Cost? $1000.






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What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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ctmaher

USA
675 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  20:33:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ron, it's a 117.963 and a 722.311 transmission.

Chris
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bwostosh

USA
485 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2010 :  22:19:50  Show Profile  Visit bwostosh's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sometimes it is just crazy that good stuff is going for not much $$

Brian O.
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Ron B

Australia
11612 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2010 :  16:52:53  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Brian,Neither the original seller of the car or the present owner knew what they had other wise the manifolds alone would have fetched many hundreds of dollars . Also,these manifolds are listed in the EPC as " not suitable for catalytic convertors.."


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What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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etmerritt33

USA
1415 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2010 :  19:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wish you guys had brought this to light before I bought my 280E beater car. These sound like some really neat cars with some cool and rare options. How quick are the 500 SEL's???
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Art Love

Australia
6226 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2010 :  23:40:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Depends which version. None came officially to Australia, so all here are grey market. The Euro cars are quicker over the quarter mile than most 6.3's and a lot quicker above 90 MPH with a higher top speed. They are a lot quicker over the quarter mile than a 6.9 with a similar top speed. The 5.6L cars are a little quicker again. UK delivery cars are the quickest as far as I know as they have no antipollution gear at all. California cars are probably the slowest, but I suspect would still beat a California late version 6.3 at everything except getting off the mark.

There are a pile of different versions as Ron's posting suggests.
Art
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alabbasi

USA
2869 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2010 :  02:44:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Art Love

Depends which version. None came officially to Australia, so all here are grey market. The Euro cars are quicker over the quarter mile than most 6.3's and a lot quicker above 90 MPH with a higher top speed. They are a lot quicker over the quarter mile than a 6.9 with a similar top speed. The 5.6L cars are a little quicker again. UK delivery cars are the quickest as far as I know as they have no antipollution gear at all. California cars are probably the slowest, but I suspect would still beat a California late version 6.3 at everything except getting off the mark.

There are a pile of different versions as Ron's posting suggests.
Art



I'm not sure about the 6.3 as I have yet to drive mine. But I have had and driven a number of 5.0 liter cars. I personally owned the following:

450SLC 5.0
500SL
500SLC
500SEL
500SEC
560SEL (US)
560SEC (US)
560SEC (Euro 300hp).

With the exception of the Euro 560SEC, none of the above models are capable of overtaking like my 6.9. There is an on ramp on my way home that merges onto another highway. If the dedicated lane to that highway is clear, I can usually tell that there was "no one" behind me and no one capable of sitting in front of me so every now and then, I boot it up the on ramp as I merge.

The 6.9 will out accelerate all of the cars in the above list with the exception of the Euro 560sec which is a slingshot. I hit 130 tomatoes per hour in that car before backing off.


With best regards

Al
1970 Mercedes Benz 280SL California Coupe
1971 Mercedes Benz 250CE (RHD in the UK)
1971 Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3
1972 Mercedes Benz 280CE 4 speed
1973 Mercedes Benz 280CE 4 speed
1973 Mercedes Benz 350SE 4 speed
1976 Mercedes Benz 300D
1979 Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9
1981 Mercedes Benz 500SLC
1984 Mercedes Benz 500SL
1988 Mercedes Benz 560SEC Euro
1991 Mercedes Benz 560SEL
1973 GMC LWB Pickup
1962 Jaguar MKII 3.8 Auto
2006 Adidas Samba


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Ron B

Australia
11612 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2010 :  02:44:51  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This particular car sounded like a Nascar stocker at idle ... .The only engine with more power in M117 range was Germany only M117-965 560 SA RuF with 220KW. While it may not sound much compared with a new Chev LS with 300KW ,it must be remembered that these were built in the mid 80's

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Tom Hanson
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What the heck, try to stuff a MB 6.9 liter V8 in it. What a machine that would be..
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