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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2008 :  20:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Art (and others),

Check out this link. It gives the chassis number that the gear box mounts and cross memeber were changed.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mercedes-Getriebelager-W108-W109-W111-W116-Neu_W0QQitemZ370022959601QQihZ024QQcategoryZ42480QQcmdZViewItem

Marvelous things these computers!!

C.T.

1971 300SEL 6.3
1969 280SE
1979 280E
1979 450SEL 6.9
1959 220SE Ponton
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Craig Tucker

Australia
654 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2008 :  22:21:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Art,

a couple of pics to confirm that the cross member with the 116 gear box mount is the correct one for your son-in-law's baby!!!!!!

Chasis #5713 Golden Nuggett.





Regards C.T.

1971 300SEL 6.3
1979 280E
1979 450SEL 6.9
1959 220SE Ponton
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2008 :  08:34:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No argument from me. You will have had my e.mail. I have already done a P&A for the W116 mount with Tom Hanson a week ago. Justin has not made up his mind yet to go with it. Looks like more clearance for the exhaust with this design than the original as well - I guess a V8 twin exhaust factor in that design. Looks like a rigid cross pipe rather than a flexible one on #5713 but I suspect that that is not original. Nice to see that my exhausts are not the only ones with scrape marks.
Art
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FEMA

USA
1393 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2008 :  23:34:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Art, very nice! I'm really enjoying this journey with you and Justin.

Francis E. Abate
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/11/2008 :  07:49:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#5810 has been on hold while Justin has rebuilt one of his Snapon M-B trucks from the bottom up. Work on the car has restarted. Here are some more pics.
Art
























Edited by - Art Love on 05/11/2008 07:51:15
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2008 :  08:29:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More pics. One of Justin replacing the warped rotors on the rebuilt truck and the rest of #5810 where the spot welding of the new panels is well advanced and other repairs are proceeding. Note particularly the progress with the right front chassis rail. There is still more to do to that rail, but it is a hell of a lot better than it was. The new beaver, left rear quarter, boot floor, left bumper support bracket and left wheel well are pretty well done. the crumpling of the right rear quarter is significantly improved. Door gaps with my donor doors are good. Rockers are good, note the end plates that I mentioned on another thread. Lots of detail for anyone who is interested.
Art



































































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alabbasi

USA
2876 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2008 :  08:52:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Someone has a sense of humor.




1971 Mercedes Benz 250CE (RHD in the UK)
1971 Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3
1973 Mercedes Benz 280SEL 4.5
1973 Mercedes Benz 350SE 4 speed
1976 Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9
1979 Mercedes Benz 450SEL 6.9
1979 Mercedes Benz 450SLC 5.0
1980 Mercedes Benz 500SLC
1997 Mercedes Benz E420
2006 Adidas Samba
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2008 :  18:21:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the panel beater. You can't read it in the picture but he put HOLDEN on the left (Australian GM) and TORANA (popular Holden model from 30 years ago) on the right as well as the 350 badge.
Art
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Ron B

Australia
11633 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2008 :  18:28:11  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aren't they going to repair the kink in ther firewall?


...There are old cars,and then there are Classics..(Mercedes Benz Ad. 1999)
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2008 :  21:06:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's on the agenda, just another job to do.
Art
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Ron B

Australia
11633 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2008 :  02:59:24  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Another thing I noticed,the hole for the steering column is smaller than a W108's and a different shape. Possibly because of the larger tunnel?

...There are old cars,and then there are Classics..(Mercedes Benz Ad. 1999)
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2008 :  06:29:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ron,
I made a comment about that on page 1. I'd be interested in Craig Tucker's input. The size of the hole has nothing to do with the size of the tunnel unless the factory got feed back about cracking of the firewall in the earlier cars, something I have personally never heard of. If you have a look at the pics I have posted here and put in the Lode Star over the years of #1702 and #765, the steering column hole in the firewall on those 6.3's is the same as the W108 and other W109's. The alloy steering column base plate was changed in the 6.3 at chassis 2020, along with a lot of other things.

I thought it might have been the same as the 3.5 W109 056, like the rear engine mount and support, but the part number for the 3.5 is a W108 part number and that for the 6.3 is a W109 part number. Craig has commented in the past on this message board that his steering column is offset to the right, something I have never noticed in my earlier cars. The later base plate is exclusive to the RHD 6.3 according to the Parts Manual and that may well explain Craig's previous comments.
Art









These aren't the best pictures, but the only ones I have of the steering column base plate in #1702 in the computer in .jpg format to post here. I have lent the photo albums to Justin and Terry for #5810, so I can't scan any better ones.

Edited by - Art Love on 05/19/2008 06:48:22
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FEMA

USA
1393 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  00:29:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Art, it makes me wonder if I should save my parts car rather than dump the body when I finish stripping it. Of course, all it takes is time.....skill.....and maybe a little money

I'm sorry if you've already mentioned this but how does Justin come by all this information and skill, other than from you of course!

Francis E. Abate
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Art Love

Australia
6239 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  03:33:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Francis,

Justin is a mechanic by trade. As a Snapon franchisee, he has all the tools you could ever dream of. The current panel beater Terry is employed full time by Justin at the moment. He's a good tradesman as well as having a sense of humour. Justin owns a shed with a lift and also has a lot of "mates" in all sorts of important trades, eg auto electrician, chrome, upholstery etc. It makes a hell of a difference.

Art

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Ron B

Australia
11633 Posts

Posted - 05/20/2008 :  03:43:19  Show Profile  Visit Ron B's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Re the smaller appearing column hole.

Well ,one thing i can see,that column is miles different to a W108 column,at least the one I have spent all day looking at. .i'm too buggered to go and check the one in my car but on the 108's column there is a sliding joint shaft next to a support tube which on column shift cars doubles as the gearshift tube.


...There are old cars,and then there are Classics..(Mercedes Benz Ad. 1999)

Edited by - Ron B on 05/20/2008 03:45:15
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